Resopns to The Baader Meinhof Complex

1. Write a post providing your personal response to the movie we viewed together: Baader-Meinhof Complex. 250-300 words.

The beginning of this movie was a little bit confusing to me.  Before class I had looked it up on Wikipedia to see what this movie was about so I could get an idea of what was going to be happening.  I figured out that it was going to be about the R.A.F. which was the Red Army Faction.  If I wasn’t to research on this before watching the movie I’m pretty sure I would be totally confused and lost on what was happening in the movie.  Like I said, the beginning was really confusing but as the movie went on it started to make more sense to me.  What I got out of it, was that the government in Germany was changing and a group stood up and started to rebel.  The police and the rest of the government didn’t like this so they started to intimidate them with violence.  The rebellions (R.A.F.) thought that if they were going to change anything they needed to speak with action instead of just standing around and talking about changing but not acting on anything.  One group of people decided to do this, and they were caught and imprisoned for it.  When they were in jail, new generations decided to the same things as what they were doing.  I don’t really agree with what they did, and at the same time I do.  I think it was wrong that they vandalized, injured, and sometimes killed people.  It makes sense that they would want to speak with actions but they could maybe have done it in a less harmful way.  At the same time I think it was their only choice though because the government was being so violent too.    

Research on the Rote Armee Fraktion

 2. Research the "Rote Armee Fraktion" RAF and
provide a second post with your findings of
 
- the causes

• Government was seen to be fascist by some German resident
• Group of German residents teamed up to protest against it 
• They were "Communist"
  

- the three generations of activists

• First generation was from 1970 to 1975.  The founders consisted of Brigitte Asdonk, Andreas Baader, Gudrun Ensslin, Ulrike Meinhof, Horst Mahler, Horst Söhnlein, Thorwald Proll, Jan-Carl Raspe · Irmgard Möller, Holger Meins, Astrid Proll, and Beate Sturm (Bolded are most famous).
• Second generation lasted from 1975 to 1982.  This generation consisted of numerous people from another group labeled as the Socialist Patients' Collective (SPK).  Most of the first generation members had been captured and imprisoned.  In response to that, new members teamed up to form a second generation.  The key members of this included: Siegfried Hausner, Brigitte Mohnhaupt, Sieglinde Hofmann, Margrit Schiller, Karl-Heinz Dellwo, Klaus Jünschke, Hanna-Elise Krabbe, Friederike Krabbe, Carmen Roll, Bernhard Rössner, Lutz Taufer, Elisabeth von Dyck, Ulrich Wessel, Gerhard Müller, Knut Folkerts, Ralf Baptist Friedrich, and Bernhard Braun.  SPK members probably wanted to join the RAF because they believed that in order to regain social order, a violent revolution needed to take place.  And the RAF was seemed to display that since at the end of it all, there was a death toll of 34 people. 
• The third generation executed a lot more of their actions in violence when compared to other generations.  This generation spurred off when a man by the name of Wolfgang Grams started to visit two members from the first generation in prison.  When he was there visiting, he found the living conditions to be rough and inhumane.  He started to date a woman by the name of Birgit Hogefeld and the third generation was kicked off.  Some of the members were Wolfgang Grams, Birgit Hogefeld, Eva Haule, Andrea Klump, Ernst-Volker Staub, Daniela Klette, Burkhard Garweg, Sabine Elke Callsen, Barbara Meyer, Horst Ludwig Meyer, and Christoph Eduard Seidler.      

- the similarities between current day's terro attacks and the RAF  

Similarities

• Both use terror to create action instaed of using words
• Used to create fear in politics or religion.  But the RAF was for politics and not religion 
• Both needed armed forces to try stopping them
• Attack in their own country
• Disregardful for the safety of civilians
  

Differences

• Terrorists attack in countries other than their own, at times

18th Century German Industry

THE GUILLOTINE (In Germany)

By: Patrick & Kyle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo5BBHtn4tM

Story Of the Living Heads- http://www.guillotine.dk/Pages/30sek.html

Credit Goes To----->

The French got credit for creating it, but was really invented by a German engineer by the name of Tobias Schmidt.  Original design was different than the one poeple know today.  It was first used in Paris and was made of 3 peices of wood.  Two peices were used on either side of the blade standing tall, with groves on the inside of them to allow the blade to run through.  There was another peice of timber on the top used as a cross beam.  The blade would drop down the groves, cut the head off, and drop it into a wicker basket. 

June 1793 to July 1794)

Famous/Nobility Executions!

• Collenot d'Angremont of the National Guard
• King Louis XVI
• Arnaud II de La Porte
•  Queen Marie Antoinette
•  Maximilien Robespierre
•  Eugen Weidmann (Last Public)
• Hamida Djandoubi (Last Recorded

Reign Of Terror!!!!   >:[]

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18th Century forms of Art (Architecture)

Link to entire Presentation

https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0AS45EM5J0d7OZGhyczQydjhfMTFoZDc5NjRodw&hl=en&authkey=CI30u4ME

Cologne Cathedral

http://www.e-architect.co.uk/cologne/ruhrgebeit_buildings.htm

• Architecture can be expressed as a form of art
• Different than most art 
• Unique
• Germans will put lots of detail into their work 
• Cologne cathedral in Cologne, Germany 
• The cathedral started in 1248 and ended in 1880
• Different artists added different pieces
• A great piece of history for German art
• Frederick II got involved in the War of Austrian Succession
• Towers completed and bells added to them
• Gothic choir was finished the two aisles of the nave were built as well as two storeys of the southern tower.Until approximately 1530 works on the cathedral continued and the building was adorned with furnishings.
• The 18^th century was a big break in the construction

http://www.andyforeman.com/x72.htm

http://luirig.altervista.org/naturaitaliana/viewpics.php?title=The+cathedral+interior,+Cologne,+the+Rhine,+Germany

Architecture is very important for Germany because it can be expressed as a form of art.  Architecture is different than most art because architecture mainly consists of buildings.  It is unique because people are able to walk inside of it and get a good look at how much detail Germans will put into their work.  A great example of how incredible architecture can be in Germany is when you take a look at the cologne cathedral in Cologne, Germany.  The process of building this cathedral started in 1248 and ended in 1880.  During that stretch of time many different artists were able to add different pieces to the building.  The cologne cathedral is a great piece of history for German art.   In the 18th century, the towers were completed and bells were added to them.  in 1794 the Gothic choir was finished the two aisles of the nave were built as well as two storeys of the southern tower.  About 1530 works on the cathedral continued and the building was adorned with furnishings.   During the 18^th century there wasn’t much happening with the building process of the cathedral, this was probably due to Frederick II getting involved in wars such as the War of Austrian Succession.  The 18^th century was probably an important time of the cathedral because there was a big break in the construction due to lack of money.  That means they had a lot of time to think about what to add in the 19^th century and they would work that much harder to get it done.  During that big break the church was used to profane reasons such as being used as a warehouse for troops in the french revolution.  In 1801 the church opened back up again to what its purpose was when it was built in the first place.   
http://www.koelner-dom.de/geschichte.html?&L=1
http://famouswonders.com/cologne-cathedral/

Why the EU will continue to be a pivotal orginization for germany in the 21st Century

1.) The EU promotes peace-  This will keep Germany out of trouble and make them look better

2.) Freedom-  Makes a free market where anyone is allowed to compete

3.) European Markets- Serves as the foundation of German economic success.  over the last half century Germany and Europe have experienced a great amount of success. 

4.) Freedom of Travel- Not needing passports makes it easier to travel for fun and economies will flow better

Government ruler chosen on 11/1/10 ----Frederick William I

Edit presentation: https://docs.google.com/present/edit?id=0AT2qOQL4rrVYZHAycDVrel80ZGZtN3Y3MzU&hl=en&authkey=CPGO-LQL

Patrick: french revolution - Frederick I?
Danielle: Holy Roman Empire
David: Frederick the Great (Frederick II)




Was said to be the first truley powerful king in Prussia, and was known as the soilders king.  He was sucsessful in  making the best army in all of Europe.  They were the most talented and powerful, earing the nick name "Sparta of the North".  Fredrick William I was really big into creating a powerful army to protect Prussia.  In fact he seemed much like a soilder himself.  He was known to sleep in the barracks with the rest of the fighting men and mostly spent his entire career building up the army.  One extent that Fredrick went to in order to create the best army around was to recruit abnormaly tall men into his army.  They would be known as the "Potsdam Giants".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_William_I_of_Prussia
http://www.suite101.com/content/frederick-william-i-a34597

   
http://www.disclose.tv/forum/tallest-german-wwii-pow-t25732.html


Fredrick used his authority to build up a powerful centralized government and erase all of the past parliamentary estates.  He had a course and crude style of ruling but he always came out with results.